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Frequently Asked Questions How
do you
connect and setup the SUT? 1. Connect
the RCA cables from the turntable to IN
on the SUT. 2. Connect
a set of RCA patch cords between the OUT
on the SUT to the inputs on your phono preamp, preamp or receiver where
it says
phono. 3. Connect
the turntable ground wire to the lug on
the SUT and add an additional ground wire between the lug on the SUT to
the
Ground Lug on your Phono Preamp. There
are 2
switches: One is ground / lift and basically you switch it to
whichever
position gets rid of the background hum. The other switch is
high/low,
and again, you switch it to whichever one sounds better. No
need
to
disconnect anything when using the switches and you can't hurt anything
by
using them. They have silver contacts and it is safe to
switch
even in
the middle of a song. Do
the switches impede
the performance of the SUTs?
Yes,
anything you use in
a circuit has an effect on the output. When the Ground / Lift
switch is in
the “lift” mode, the switch is not part of the
circuit. An A-B test of a
SUT with and without the Gain Switch did not have an appreciable effect
on the
output. I exclusively use switches with silver
contacts,
which as
you know is a great conductor. They are so quiet that you can
switch them
in the middle of a song and not hear anything but the change in
gain. My
wiring is all silver and I use resistance soldering
exclusively.
Even
when the switches get old, silver actually becomes a better conductor
if it is
corroded, so they will still be quiet. Do
you provide telephone
support?
I
regret that I am
unable to provide telephone support at this time. I am very
patient with
email and try to check it several times per day.
Additionally,
since I am
the only employee and do everything including from design, to hand
polishing of
the cases, to wiring, testing and emails, that talking on the phone
interrupts
the design, manufacturing and testing processes.
Email is
best,
since I can check it on breaks. Please understand that this
in no
way
means that I do not strive to provide excellent customer support. What
kind of
interconnects do you recommend? Use
interconnects
that are grounded on one end only and are built with twisted pair
wires.
There is a rudimentary sketch on my website here. http://www.bobsdevices.com/diagram.gif The
cables will
all look the same on the outside. It depends on how they are
constructed. The RCA plug has a + and a - . The -
is the
outside
part and the + is the pin in the middle. What you want is a
cable
that
has 2 wires inside a shield. You would use one of the wires
as a
+ and
one as a -. You would connect the shield at only one
end.
But when
you look at the cable it will not look any different.
Sometimes
they are
called directional cables and have arrows on them. You would
look
for a
cable made from 2 conductor twisted wires with a shield. Most
likely it
will be built properly. The shield is sometimes called a
drain. Any
SUT including these, will work with a standard RCA set of cables, but
if you
hook it up and are experiencing some hum, the cables could be the
culprit. Are
your SUT’s
quiet? Yes.
These SUTs
are stone cold quiet. However, SUTs sometimes have a
reputation
for having a “hum.” This may be
due to several
causes including
improper installation and wiring of the SUT itself, use of improper
cables,
ground loops from too many ground wires, and location of the SUT and
interconnects. I have done extensive testing to ensure that
there
is no
noise from the SUT. The ground/lift switch takes into account
different
types of setups that are commonly encountered. Introduction
of ground
loops can occur with the installation of any equipment, and if
you
have
that problem, I will gladly help you troubleshoot that. See
the
section
on GROUNDING
for tips on that. Now,
having said that,
you can’t put the SUT next to a big power transformer, motor
or
power cables
and expect it to be quiet. How
do MC Step Up
Transformers (SUTs) work?
With
Step up
transformers, you are converting the current (which the mc cartridge
has an
excess) to voltage. The physics are such that the square of
the
step up
ratio is equal to the internal impedance of the transformer.
So,
for
example, if a transformer has a step up ratio (for voltage) of 1:10,
then the
internal impedance is 10 x10 = 100. To use this number, you
would
divide
47000 by 100 to get the reflected impedance to the cartridge of 470
ohms.
So when the step up ratio is increased, the reflected impedance is
increased
exponentially. So, it has to be a balance.
When
cartridge
manufacturers quote impedance, they usually do so for sizing head
amplifiers,
which are different from step up transformers. With step up
transformers,
you mainly care about converting the cartridge voltage to between 2.5
and 10
mV, which is what a MM input is designed for using RIAA
standards. Now
all manufacturers have different specs on their phono stages.
Some may
have higher or lower sensitivities or ceilings. That
information
is not
always published. Why
do we use the MM
inputs when using a SUT?
Yes,
you definitely want
to use the MM inputs, since there is a published standard for
them. There
is no standard for MC inputs and manufacturers frequently have internal
adjustments for the MC inputs. A standard RIAA
phono preamp
is
designed to handle between 2.5 mV and 10 mV, conservatively.
The
RIAA
standard is designed around 5mV and 1 kHz. Usually you will
not
start
overloading a phono stage until after 10mV, and I find that the highest
gain
sounds the best, as long as:
1. You do not drive the phono stage to
distortion.
2. You do not provide too
much
reflected impedance to choke out the cartridge.
Since
this device of yours is a transformer, does
it thus still need a phono
input on my pre-amp or can it go into any line level input?
You will need to connect the output of the
SUT to a Phono Preamp magnetic cartridge (MM) input. It will
not
work
into a line level input. How
about the RIAA equalization? Is that inherent to the transformers, or
to
your design? or Does this pass an unequalized signal to the phono input
of the
preamp which then applies the equalization?
The SUT design assumes that your phono preamp
uses RIAA equalization. It is designed to pass the
unequalized
signal
through, just as you stated, where the MM phono input provides the
equalization. How
do I trace the ground leads from the turntable to find ground loops?
Start
from your
cartridge and follow the wires, looking carefully for any places where
the
negative terminals of the cartridge (let’s call them system
grounds) are
connected to equipment grounds (let's call them chassis ground,
sometimes
referred to as drain wires). We only want one
chassis ground
connection between pieces of equipment. When there is more
than
one
chassis ground connection, there is the possibility of a ground loop
(The
electrons don't know which way to go, so they keep on moving and
generate
noise.) Since
most of us use RCA
cables from the turntable to the phono preamp, the negative (system
ground)
wires have to be shielded with a chassis ground.
Some
turntables connect the shield of the RCA cables to
the
chassis ground
wire at the turntable, and some do not. You only
want them
connected
that way at one end, hence the ground / lift
switch. So, here
is the short answer. Remove the ground
wire connecting
the
turntable from the phono preamp. Connect ONLY the ground from
the
turntable to the Box you got from me. Don't connect
the wire
from
the box to the Phono Preamp just yet. Now, make sure
that you use
interconnect cable between the transformer and the Phono
Preamp
that have 2 wires inside (positive and negative) and the
shield is
connected to the outside (chassis ground of the cable) at only one
end. (The cable will have the negative lead and the
ground
attached
to the outside of the RCA connector at one end. The
cable
will only
have the negative lead (Not the ground) attached at the other
end.) Now,
with everything hooked up, turn it on and listen to the
hum.
Then
move the switch to whichever position offers less
hum.
Then touch the preamp ground wire to
the ground lug and see
if it is less or more noisy. Then remove
the wire from
the
phono and see if it is quieter or not. Then touch the
phono
wire to
the preamp wire and see if that is quieter. The
other type of noise
is interference (you get that from any parts of your system
wires
running
too close to power transformers, power cords, or any kind of
AC
power.) Even
after much reading
on your site and others, I am still not fully grasping the impedance
issues Transformers
are basically voltage changing devices. When used as step up
devices for
MC cartridges, it steps up the voltage from one that is too low for the
phono
preamp to use to one that is in the range. A secondary effect
of
transformers is that it multiplies the impedance by the square of the
step up
ratio. (read that twice.) For example, a step up
ratio of
1:10 has
a secondary impedance multiplier of 10 x 10 = 100. So if the
cartridge has
an output of say .5mV, the 1:10 step up raises it ten times so the
output is
5.0mV. We
work the impedance backwards, since most phono preamps
have the RIAA standard of 47,000 ohms impedance. So in our
example you
would divide the 47,000 by the 100 to get 470 ohms impedance to the
cartridge. All
of this is pretty straight forward. The part
that is not so straight forward, and there are considerable
disagreements over
the proper impedance to load a cartridge using a step up
transformer. Many
have experimented with different values and there are varying
opinions.
You definitely do not
want
the impedance to
be less than the cartridge impedance, and, as a general rule of thumb,
you want
it too high, rather than too low. So if you have a cartridge
with
an
impedance of say 40 ohms, you want the impedance to be much higher than
that. I feel comfortable with 10 times, but it
depends.
Each cartridge manufacture recommends an impedance
for
loading but
they do not always provide the best information. The
cartridge database has general loading
information for each cartridge, and it is usually stated as >100
ohms, or
something like that. Personally
I have tested a dozen or so cartridges and
have communicated with many individuals who have collectively have
probably 50
different cartridges. So, between the cartridge database and
the
feedback
from customers, we can pretty well judge what works well and what
doesn’t. A
few questions: –
(1) in respect of the interconnect between the SUT and phono stage: (a)
Is the
shorter the better?; (b) Can I get away with not using a shielded cable
and use
say an interconnect comprising a 3 wire braid of solid core single
crystal 6N
copper sheathed in cotton?; and (c) In the case of a shielded
rca interconnect,
should the shield be connected at the “receiving”
end or
the “transmitting” end
of the cable? (2) Clarification on grounding. I am using a
Terminator
tone arm and there’s no ground lug like the VPI tone arm I
was
using
previously.
I
have two phono stages both with 47K ohms loading. I am
checking
on the
gain on my McIntosh C15 preamp which has a standard moving magnet phono
section. My cartridge has an internal impedance of 7.2 ohms. It has a
0.3 mV
output. People selling step up transformers out there do not give the
important
information or if they do, they do it in a way that someone like myself
cannot
understand as I do not have a technical background. The
ratio stuff just goes over my head. Hope
you can help me understand what type of SUT would work best for me.
You
generally want at least 10 times the internal impedance, except for
some Denon
Cartridges. There are always exceptions to everything,
including
this
statement. You
didn’t tell me what cartridge you are using so I will speak
in
generalities. A
standard MM Phono preamp is set up with 47,000 ohm input resistors
(They are
sometimes easily changed and I recommend that folks change them to
100,000 ohms
if they can do so, which will allow a higher gain step up and also put
less resistance
in the way of the signal. All
MM Phono stages are different, but most of them will accept a load
between
2.5mV and 10 mV. If you know the sensitivity (low number) or
the
overload
voltage (high number) you can substitute those in the equation. Basically,
take both values and divide by the output voltage of the cartridge to
get the
range of step up ratio that will work. Then take the input
impedance of
the phono preamp and divide it by the minimum impedance that the
cartridge
wants to see (10 times the internal impedance). Take the
square
root of
that number and that is the highest step up ratio that your cartridge
can use
without choking it out. Compare
that to the max and min voltage calculations and you have the range of
step up
ratios that will work. Here
is your specific calculation to get step up ratios, based on a standard
RIAA MM
Phono preamp and a cartridge with .3mV output and 7.2 ohms internal
impedance: 10mV
/
.3mV = 33 2.5mV
/
.3mV = 8.35 47,000
ohms / 72 ohms = 653, sqrt of 653 = 25.5 So,
you need a step up ratio of between 1:8.35 and 1:25.5 Usually,
the ratio at the highest end of this scale works best.
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